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4/13/2014 10:48:18 PM

Dodger Matt
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Saw this statistic on the Devil website about the all-time record between the two schools:
    ASU moved to 190-124 in the series against Arizona since 1959 and 213-240 all-time against the Wildcats…

  • So all-time Arizona holds a 240-213 advantage over ASU, a winning percentage of .530.
  • From 1959 to the present, ASU holds the advantage: 190-124 (.605).
That means that for who knows how long until 1959, Arizona had a record of 116-23 (.835) over ASU? What the hell was going on that for 140 games over however many years the schools existed ASU could only win 1 out of every 7 or 8 games played? And what was so magical about 1959? Did ASU finally start using nine players or something that year?
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4/13/2014 11:54:49 PM

BeaverBob
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Thanks for the info Matt. Now you have me researching the OSU/UO series history. It is a bit more challenging with UO dropping their program in the early 80s and resurrecting a few years ago.

I also sent a former coworker of mine an email to see how the rivalry was when he played. He played on the second to last team that the Ducks had before they dropped baseball.

Dodger Matt wrote:
Saw this statistic on the Devil website about the all-time record between the two schools:
    ASU moved to 190-124 in the series against Arizona since 1959 and 213-240 all-time against the Wildcats…

  • So all-time Arizona holds a 240-213 advantage over ASU, a winning percentage of .530.
  • From 1959 to the present, ASU holds the advantage: 190-124 (.605).
That means that for who knows how long until 1959, Arizona had a record of 116-23 (.835) over ASU? What the hell was going on that for 140 games over however many years the schools existed ASU could only win 1 out of every 7 or 8 games played? And what was so magical about 1959? Did ASU finally start using nine players or something that year?
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4/14/2014 7:24:50 PM

Dodger Matt
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ASU74 and Rowdy are the only fans of those teams on this board who are active, so I was basically talking to them. But I accidentally got an answer this afternoon.

When I pulled int the driveway after work, my next door neighbor (very short man, maybe 5 feet) and a tall friend of his (over 6 feet), both in their 60s, were playing catch in the street between our houses. So I got out of the car to chat with them. My neighbor was practicing throwing out the first pitch (from about 35 to 40 feet) because, as ASU's longest-season-ticket-holding fan (some 40 years), the team has asked him to throw out the first pitch at tomorrow UNLV game as part of the closing of Packard Stadium celebration.

So he mentioned 1959 as that "magical" year, and I asked him what happened that year. Before that, ASU baseball was like a club baseball team, with no caoch. But that year Bobby Winkles decided to coach the kids.

Remember, before Horton showed up in Eugene, the Ducks did have a couple of successful club baseball teams do well in the national club baseball world series; but those teams would have been slaughtered by practically any D1 team. That's what ASU baseball was before 1959.

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4/14/2014 10:34:08 PM

ASU74
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Dodger Matt wrote:
Saw this statistic on the Devil website about the all-time record between the two schools:
    ASU moved to 190-124 in the series against Arizona since 1959 and 213-240 all-time against the Wildcats…

  • So all-time Arizona holds a 240-213 advantage over ASU, a winning percentage of .530.
  • From 1959 to the present, ASU holds the advantage: 190-124 (.605).
That means that for who knows how long until 1959, Arizona had a record of 116-23 (.835) over ASU? What the hell was going on that for 140 games over however many years the schools existed ASU could only win 1 out of every 7 or 8 games played? And what was so magical about 1959? Did ASU finally start using nine players or something that year?


I don't have a clue. I was just a 7 year old baby Devil back then.boxer

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4/15/2014 11:22:47 PM

Dodger Matt
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Fred, were you at the UNLV game? Did you see my neighbor throw out the first pitch?
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